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1. Rob Taylor says:
   February 10, 2009 at 7:19 am

   These two remind me of the “Witches” so often encountered in Wiccan circles whose rhinestone encrusted grimoires are full of spells they learned from repeated viewings of Charmed.

   The Internet and Print on Demand book publishing has created an entire class of know nothing “wizards” who haven’t put in the time and effort to learn their craft. Hipster pretension as occult knowledge. For them to maintain their cache they have to ensure that the inexperienced has no authentic traditions to compare their inanity to. That’ why the Afro-carib traditions are often denigrated by “chaos magicians” and Wiccans., compared to the real thing these people are obvious frauds.

   I had the voodoo gnostic workbook as a kid. After one read (something about astral tarantulas) I knew I wasted my money. Funny that people still take that book seriously.
2. some dude says:
   March 10, 2009 at 9:18 am

   Practicing chaos magickian here (even have an emo haircut, while i still have hair), and I like Feral House and Re/Search too… Even printed a bootleg copy of the the Voudon Gnostic Workbook (“ZOMG teh Werespiders will killz me!”… if you didn’t know some joker claimed it had an “occult copywrite” and people ran with it), which was hilarious and what I’d file under my “Some People Have To Touch The Blowtorch Flame To Learn It’s Dangerous” category so let me get that out of the way as disclosure. But all of this is totally relevant.

   I do find it hilarious that you have two “post-modern” occultists criticizing Voudon, etc., for being degenerate. It’s like they didn’t have the 90 minutes to watch that Maya Deren movie (“Ohmigod! Black people! Killing a cow! Then eating it! Werespiders! Aiiiiieeeeee!!!” (Don’t see why a voodoo sacrifice is a problem when Louv himself spent months sacrificing chickens in Nepal).

   And maybe… just maybe… Louv didn’t notice that he was an upper-middle-class white kid petitioning spirits to whom he hadn’t been introduced (initiated)? Did he even know who he had on the phone? Come on, that is like 101 level shit… classic consumerism: “I made the offering [paid for it] then they kicked my ass [and I want my money back]!”

   This post came to the party/parking lot brawl late, but it’s well-said, to say the least. It’s a shame to watch someone blow up on the internet, but like any train wreck, oddly fascinating. Louv seemed smart enough, though, it’s a shame a con-man vampire like Shivanath/Bastart could latch onto someone with some promise (who initially published Stephen Grasso, a hoodoo (?) practitioner), and, seeing an obvious weakness in his grandiosity, break him.

   No Chaos Magick, Werespiders or Haitian Loa necessary. Just a classic example of a sociopath skilled at social games taking advantage of someone.

   Anyway, just some words from a dude who was paying attention at the time. Nice website
3. Fuerza Ndoki says:
   March 10, 2009 at 9:41 am

   Nsalamalekum

   Hey thanks for your kind comments. And actually I like RE/Search and Feral House too, or did in my early 20s anyway.

   And definitely anyone interested in anything even remotely resembling any of this stuff could certainly do worse than to start off reading Peter Carroll!!!!

   Honestly what really tripped me out here, was how someone seemingly so intelligent – and who claims “eight years experience with Voudon” – could actually warn against “Dark Yoruban practices” with a straight face.

   It’s like someone sent away for one of those “Secrets of the Deadly Ninja” kits that used to be in the back of comic books, and then made it his mission to warn people against “Dark Hindoo practices”!!!!

   Too funny…!

   Kiambote

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